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#40816 - 16/03/12 01:38 PM LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL
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I have noticed the increasing use of lead free wine glasses and last night was having a conversation with the bar manager in my local "gastro" pub. He does not use lead crystal wine glasses because he said that wine connosieurs can tell the difference.

He does sell £200 plus bottles with a 20002 something at £760!!! I find that this is unbeleivable and have looked on the internal to find out more. Ravenscroft make reference to offering lead free crystal on their site.

Question......Do we suffer from the same problem with spirits? Are the good old glencairns lead free and also what about the bottles? Any comments?

ANDY

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#40817 - 16/03/12 01:47 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: Andy Holmes]
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On Glencairn:

The glass is approximately 115 mm in height and has been available in three variations: 24% lead crystal, lead-free crystal and soda-lime glass. The vast majority of glasses in circulation are of the lead-free crystal variety. The soda-lime variation was discontinued in 2008
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#40818 - 16/03/12 01:49 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: gwenved]
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On crystal whisky decanters:

Many decanters are made of leaded crystal, and the lead can leach into the alcohol, leading to concerns over lead poisoning. A 1992 report by the California Department of Health Services noted that the absorption of lead was higher in alcoholic beverages with lower pH levels. The maximum amount of time that the alcohol was stored in decanters was 14 days. The researchers concluded :"The consumption of alcoholic beverages stored in lead crystal decanters is judged to pose a hazard."

Read more: What Are Whiskey Decanters? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8073902_whiskey-decanters.html#ixzz1pHu16t6p
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#40819 - 16/03/12 01:52 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: gwenved]
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Said all this: it's common known that lead is far more dangerous for children, and snot so much for adults.
So if there's one lesson to be taken: don't let your children drink whisky out of crystal decanters ! \:\)
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#40820 - 16/03/12 02:10 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: gwenved]
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Why is there always a report by an American Dept of Health ?
I remember talking to Stuart Thomson (ex-Ardbeg manager) about why no old Ardbegs were sent for sale to the USA , he said because the Dept of Health requires tests on whisky over a certain age looking for Carsegenics (which are present in whisky over a certain age) , but what they don't say is you need to drink 14.5 bottles in one go to get enough in the system to kill you.....
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#40823 - 16/03/12 03:31 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: Ardbeggordon]
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The US "Center for Disease Control" is bad but the State of California is "absurdistan"! When buying "play sand" for my children's sandbox years ago, the bag said that the State of California called sand a carcinogen. Of course, if you spend your LIFE sandblasting and don't wear a mask (inhaling the fine sand dust for YEARS), you may get lung cancer. But since it COULD happen, they have to mark the bags of sand for my childrens' sandbox.

Oh yeah, the US Center for Disease Control also came up with a "talking hamburger". The motto of the burger, "if it is pink in the middle, it is done to little." I haven't see any billboards of this incredibly stupid campaign in awhile though. Sanity prevails, perhaps.


Edited by autism (16/03/12 03:33 PM)

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#40828 - 16/03/12 03:47 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: gwenved]
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 Originally Posted By: gwenved
Said all this: it's common known that lead is far more dangerous for children, and snot so much for adults.
So if there's one lesson to be taken: don't let your children drink whisky out of crystal decanters ! \:\)

And adults, be sure to use snot-free glasses.
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#40829 - 16/03/12 03:50 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: autism]
Andy Holmes Offline
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I understand the health issue but is it a tasting issue as well. The wine or spirit is in the glass for a very short time anyway. Does it affect the pallete

ANDY

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#40835 - 16/03/12 04:56 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: Andy Holmes]
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It seems a bit unlikely to me Andy but you never know. Of course wine buffs will always be able to tell that they are holding a crystal glass and their imagination may do the rest.
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#40837 - 16/03/12 04:57 PM Re: LEAD IN YOUR PENCIL [Re: MrTH]
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 Originally Posted By: MrTH
And adults, be sure to use snot-free glasses.

I suspect that snot is more detectable than lead in a glass of wine.
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